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		<title>By: jonbirch</title>
		<link>http://asbojesus.wordpress.com/2007/10/04/124/#comment-1748</link>
		<dc:creator>jonbirch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you, ruthy roo. all the best with the thesis. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you, ruthy roo. all the best with the thesis. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Ruthy Roo</title>
		<link>http://asbojesus.wordpress.com/2007/10/04/124/#comment-1745</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruthy Roo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 13:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys..interesting convo about this subject...i'm currently writing a thesis on this very thing ie whether or not to sing! I agree with most of the negative comments towards the use of singing, in particular the aspect of cultural divisiveness these days. My thoughts come back to the aspect of liturgy. As spoken liturgy is dwindling in many churches (for some it's never been a huge part of 'ordinary' worship) i question what it is we do/can do that equates. Remembering that liturgy means 'of the people' what is it that we do as a corporate body to respond to God whether that comes in the form of praise/adoration/petition/intercession. Singing has i guess been the fall back for that for the last 2000 years. I talk to some who can't comprehend NOT singing, and some who say they can't sing and therefore don't sing, or just dislike singing, or can't see the reasons why we should. Style definitely plays a part in it...but that could be a whole other book! I'm not sure i can think of another practice that satisfies that corporate offering in the same way as congregational song. It's a huge topic...but i appreciate the stimulus. Thanks!
Your stuff is fabulous btw Jon...I've only just found this...but i'll definitely be returning!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys..interesting convo about this subject&#8230;i&#8217;m currently writing a thesis on this very thing ie whether or not to sing! I agree with most of the negative comments towards the use of singing, in particular the aspect of cultural divisiveness these days. My thoughts come back to the aspect of liturgy. As spoken liturgy is dwindling in many churches (for some it&#8217;s never been a huge part of &#8216;ordinary&#8217; worship) i question what it is we do/can do that equates. Remembering that liturgy means &#8216;of the people&#8217; what is it that we do as a corporate body to respond to God whether that comes in the form of praise/adoration/petition/intercession. Singing has i guess been the fall back for that for the last 2000 years. I talk to some who can&#8217;t comprehend NOT singing, and some who say they can&#8217;t sing and therefore don&#8217;t sing, or just dislike singing, or can&#8217;t see the reasons why we should. Style definitely plays a part in it&#8230;but that could be a whole other book! I&#8217;m not sure i can think of another practice that satisfies that corporate offering in the same way as congregational song. It&#8217;s a huge topic&#8230;but i appreciate the stimulus. Thanks!<br />
Your stuff is fabulous btw Jon&#8230;I&#8217;ve only just found this&#8230;but i&#8217;ll definitely be returning!</p>
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		<title>By: Check out the Asides at Trying to follow</title>
		<link>http://asbojesus.wordpress.com/2007/10/04/124/#comment-1028</link>
		<dc:creator>Check out the Asides at Trying to follow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 05:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One problem of the church. (0) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jonbirch</title>
		<link>http://asbojesus.wordpress.com/2007/10/04/124/#comment-1014</link>
		<dc:creator>jonbirch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that's alright, sam. just go ahead and use.
i think soon i'll add a paypal donation link, then people can decide for themselves what they do.
honestly, my first thought is that i want them used if they're useful to people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s alright, sam. just go ahead and use.<br />
i think soon i&#8217;ll add a paypal donation link, then people can decide for themselves what they do.<br />
honestly, my first thought is that i want them used if they&#8217;re useful to people.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Norton</title>
		<link>http://asbojesus.wordpress.com/2007/10/04/124/#comment-1007</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi - thanks for the permission to use the cartoon - as above - but we pay for the use of other cartoons in our parish magazine and I'd be very happy to enter into the same arrangement with you (I couldn't find anywhere on your site where you give that as an option). Do get in touch if you'd like to pursue that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi - thanks for the permission to use the cartoon - as above - but we pay for the use of other cartoons in our parish magazine and I&#8217;d be very happy to enter into the same arrangement with you (I couldn&#8217;t find anywhere on your site where you give that as an option). Do get in touch if you&#8217;d like to pursue that.</p>
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		<title>By: A tumbling Daniel &#8211; Music in church</title>
		<link>http://asbojesus.wordpress.com/2007/10/04/124/#comment-873</link>
		<dc:creator>A tumbling Daniel &#8211; Music in church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 16, 2007 Permanent Link to &#34;Music in church&#34;   Number 124 in The Ongoing Adventures of ASBO [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jonbirch</title>
		<link>http://asbojesus.wordpress.com/2007/10/04/124/#comment-711</link>
		<dc:creator>jonbirch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Hufi</title>
		<link>http://asbojesus.wordpress.com/2007/10/04/124/#comment-709</link>
		<dc:creator>Hufi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good.</description>
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		<title>By: jonbirch</title>
		<link>http://asbojesus.wordpress.com/2007/10/04/124/#comment-691</link>
		<dc:creator>jonbirch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi bishopdave... agree fully! :-)
re. permission... you just take whatever you want, whenever you want. if it's possible to credit asbojesus please do. i want this stuff used. j :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi bishopdave&#8230; agree fully! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
re. permission&#8230; you just take whatever you want, whenever you want. if it&#8217;s possible to credit asbojesus please do. i want this stuff used. j <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: bishopdave</title>
		<link>http://asbojesus.wordpress.com/2007/10/04/124/#comment-690</link>
		<dc:creator>bishopdave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love your stuff! It's getting to be a daily addiction. I think we're all correct about music, it's all over the Bible. Worship is everything, not just music. Jon, your comment about music being tribal is right on. Is there a greater controversy than music styles that divides a church? I am now at the age that "youth worship" annoys me greatly! Each generation/subculture has music that speaks to their hearts, and music that grinds on their ears. We are trying to move the emphasis from what the music sounds like to what the lyrics say--"Are you praying these words if you don't wish to sing them? At what level is your heart involved?" I'd like to see more emphasis on Word, take tim e in the service just to hug and encourage. 
NOW&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;
How do I obtain permission to use this cartoon as an illustration in a sermon or newsletter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love your stuff! It&#8217;s getting to be a daily addiction. I think we&#8217;re all correct about music, it&#8217;s all over the Bible. Worship is everything, not just music. Jon, your comment about music being tribal is right on. Is there a greater controversy than music styles that divides a church? I am now at the age that &#8220;youth worship&#8221; annoys me greatly! Each generation/subculture has music that speaks to their hearts, and music that grinds on their ears. We are trying to move the emphasis from what the music sounds like to what the lyrics say&#8211;&#8221;Are you praying these words if you don&#8217;t wish to sing them? At what level is your heart involved?&#8221; I&#8217;d like to see more emphasis on Word, take tim e in the service just to hug and encourage.<br />
NOW&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
How do I obtain permission to use this cartoon as an illustration in a sermon or newsletter?</p>
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