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About jonbirch

animator, illustrator, character designer, graphic designer. music producer/recording musician. co-owner of PROOST. proost.co.uk
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14 Responses to 284

  1. will says:

    Love theses series Jon. Really makes you think: There is text in the bible that does suggest this but when you look at it these terms it should make you stop and think about the literalism of it. I think it would be foolish to take it on face value without looking at the way that God has worked at rebuilding the relationship with his people over thousands of years. Everything must be taken in context with ALL we know about God. Then we must take into account of ALL we DON’T know about God and this is way more than we could ever imagine.

    My worry is that people miss out on: Hey God loves you and just gets the: If you get by a bus tomorrow….. attitudes. I Think love is best and leave God to the convicting, changing of hearts and attitudes bit. We might get a bit more done if we focused on that.

  2. Sarah says:

    Amen…what he said

    Sas x

    I don’t see how anything can be lost, and I don’t think anything will be.

  3. jonbirch says:

    sas and will… i remember, years ago, to my shame, saying to a friend i loved and have not seen since… ‘what if you got hit by a bus tomorrow?…’ i meant it because i cared. now i realise what an awful thing to say that was.
    it can be out of compassionate motives that we do and say stupid things. sometimes in our desire to see the best for people we can become invasive and aggressive out of desperation. i don’t believe the kingdom is built on desperation and panic. will is right.
    ‘the whole creation groans for redemption’ too, i think the ‘fire’ must be a refining one a la ‘the prophets’… i don’t see anything that contradicts this in the new testament, not even jesus’ oft misinterpreted hell quotes.
    if god promises with a rainbow that he’ll never destroy the whole earth again with floods, why would we think he’ll just try and get round it by destroying it with fire instead?… he might as well flood it!
    sure, i believe in an end to sin and acasting out of evil and badness, but that is the work of refinement.

  4. JF says:

    I thought a rainbow is just the sun reflecting off rain, no?

  5. Will says:

    no am sure there was a promise there somewhere….. must check

  6. jonbirch says:

    referring to the story of noah. and yes it’s just the sun reflecting off rain. although ‘just’ sounds a bit like taking a rainbow for granted… they may be simple science in a modern world, but they’re amazing. :-)

  7. Carole says:

    Pray like it all depends on God; act like it all depends on you. Or something like that. Trouble is we can take our part in things too seriously. A good friend of mine, whom I love dearly, was having a women’s outreach event. Canvassing all her friends for prayer support, she mass texted, “I have 9 unsaved women coming along.” My bloke’s response was the old joke, “Well would you ask her to save one for me.” But the phraseology she’d used made me whince slightly, making non-Christian people sound a bit like a commodity, Christians appearing to have the capacity to ‘save’ people under their own steam. There are some things it is OK to leave to God.

    Oh, and I love rainbows, too. I always stop and acknowledge the miracle in the apparently mundane. The beautiful scent of the flowers, the vivid green of lush, green grass and the humble rainbow all make me feel closer to my Creator. Lovely stuff!

  8. Laura says:

    I like rainbows too!

    but I don’t get this cartoon. ;-)

    Does the brown building represent humanity, an individual human (temple of God and all that) or churh? or all or the above or none of the above?

  9. Sarah says:

    Carole and Jon,

    Rainbows have always been a sign to me.

    Nice to read you Carole.

    Jon, Will, this is all so deep that I’m not going to say much.

    Except I’m glad to see everyone…you know, in the future.

    Love,

    Sarah

  10. jonbirch says:

    hi laura. the barn is gods world… the crop is the good things he has given… the demolition in the last frame questions whether god would make all this with the purpose of its destruction.
    hope that helps. :-)

    as you may have noticed from earlier posts… my mum died almost a year ago. she was a massive fan of rainbows and they always assured her of gods love. on leaving the hospital after her death we were driving down the motorway and there was a big rainbow in the sky. i took this as a sign that all was well. my mum was with her lord. my mum was alright now. don’t ask me how, but this helps. :-)

    carole… i think the us and them thing is awful. i, like you, feel uncomfortable when people who do not profess christianity are commodified. i love what you wrote. :-)

  11. Laura says:

    Thanks Jon,
    I disagree that God made the world with the purpose of it’s destruction though.
    I believe God created it in a state of perfection, but that humanity has screwed it all up by not taking stewardship seriously.

    That wasn’t God design or desire.

  12. jonbirch says:

    that’s my point too.
    the cartoon is saying this ‘isn’t’ gods purpose, hence the ‘question mark’ and the ‘hmmmmm’. :-)

  13. Laura says:

    oooohhhhh.
    I knew that ;-)

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