i’m no longer sure whether thinking outside the box is possible. we’re always trapped in a world of assumptions, prejudices, fears and anxieties. to break out of these through education or good old healing and grace seems to change the nature of the box but we remain flawed… for now. maybe we’ll be able to one day. or maybe we’ll always have our limits and certain boundaries simply are in our best interests.
sorry for the ramble… i think that’s two thoughts that got stuck together somehow.
Jonbirch said: “i’m no longer sure whether thinking outside the box is possible.”
That’s a great post and ‘toon. The music some thing is so fresh and hip right now is blasé to someone else. As the cartoon points out, getting out of the box is actually staying in the box. Feeling edgy is no longer on the edge. And so on with our various cliches that make us feel like pioneers.
the post cracks me up - there’s nothing new under the sun… & illustrates to me that no matter how much I think I’m getting out of the box, there’s always another one …
Maybe a case of things having such a bad name we don’t want to touch them with a disinfected bargepole.
My husband used to say to me, “We’re all clichés”, which I used to take great exception too, but now I realise Yeah. But so what. As long as you know you’re true and you’re (as much as possible) happy with yourself and you’re trying to make the world a better place… - who cares? Rather be a cliché doing something right than be fantastically self-assured and that’s all.
ps Su you’re dead right re modern conditions of worth. Another one is, You have yo think this way about a certain thing, or that way, because oh doesn’t everyone.
Another version of leaving our brains at the door.
Moving from one box to a bigger one can be scary, and all credit when we have the guts to try it. When the walls get so far away they’re difficult to see, it’s tempting to run back to the previous box. Maybe faith is learning to be at home in the box you don’t feel safe in
thanks Chris, something like this has been happening to me, the box changed somehow, hope it all settles down to something I can manage soon. so good to read you post, and think, ‘it’s ok’.
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Dig the ‘toons…
Pine Box Dread
Comment by Babylon's Dread — November 30, 2007 @ 6:03 am
your fine, so long as ….
your thinking outside the box (modern conditions of worth)
Comment by su — November 30, 2007 @ 7:57 am
i’m no longer sure whether thinking outside the box is possible. we’re always trapped in a world of assumptions, prejudices, fears and anxieties. to break out of these through education or good old healing and grace seems to change the nature of the box but we remain flawed… for now. maybe we’ll be able to one day. or maybe we’ll always have our limits and certain boundaries simply are in our best interests.
sorry for the ramble… i think that’s two thoughts that got stuck together somehow.
Comment by jonbirch — November 30, 2007 @ 10:25 am
Jonbirch said: “i’m no longer sure whether thinking outside the box is possible.”
That’s a great post and ‘toon. The music some thing is so fresh and hip right now is blasé to someone else. As the cartoon points out, getting out of the box is actually staying in the box. Feeling edgy is no longer on the edge. And so on with our various cliches that make us feel like pioneers.
Comment by bishopdave — November 30, 2007 @ 1:32 pm
thanks, bishop dave
yeh… it struck me as i was responding to a couple of posts. this cartoon is certainly true of my own experience of what i’m like.
Comment by jonbirch — November 30, 2007 @ 1:44 pm
So true, great image. Like the artistic direction too.
Comment by Chris — November 30, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
thanks chris.
Comment by jonbirch — November 30, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
the post cracks me up - there’s nothing new under the sun… & illustrates to me that no matter how much I think I’m getting out of the box, there’s always another one …
Comment by scoeyd — November 30, 2007 @ 6:54 pm
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What he said :))))))))))))))))) “vanity vanity”
Comment by kick-hat-snare — November 30, 2007 @ 7:24 pm
Reminds me a bit of the temple. Actually its giving me one of those dizzy infinity moments…
Comment by Carole — November 30, 2007 @ 7:47 pm
Are we like kids at Christmas…
We take the good stuff out of the box
then get in the box
then realise the good stuffs now not in the box anymore and can’t climb back out of the box.
Maybe the father of the house will lift us out of the box….
Into the living room (which by the way is…… another box) ;]
Comment by kick-hat-snare — November 30, 2007 @ 9:40 pm
Maybe a case of things having such a bad name we don’t want to touch them with a disinfected bargepole.
My husband used to say to me, “We’re all clichés”, which I used to take great exception too, but now I realise Yeah. But so what. As long as you know you’re true and you’re (as much as possible) happy with yourself and you’re trying to make the world a better place… - who cares? Rather be a cliché doing something right than be fantastically self-assured and that’s all.
Sas x
Comment by Sarah — November 30, 2007 @ 10:22 pm
ps Su you’re dead right re modern conditions of worth. Another one is, You have yo think this way about a certain thing, or that way, because oh doesn’t everyone.
Another version of leaving our brains at the door.
Gosh aren’t I cheery this evening.
Sas
Comment by Sarah — November 30, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
love it!
Comment by Kel — December 1, 2007 @ 8:25 am
thanks kel
Comment by jonbirch — December 1, 2007 @ 11:18 am
Moving from one box to a bigger one can be scary, and all credit when we have the guts to try it. When the walls get so far away they’re difficult to see, it’s tempting to run back to the previous box. Maybe faith is learning to be at home in the box you don’t feel safe in
Comment by Chris F — December 1, 2007 @ 1:00 pm
thanks Chris, something like this has been happening to me, the box changed somehow, hope it all settles down to something I can manage soon. so good to read you post, and think, ‘it’s ok’.
Comment by su — December 1, 2007 @ 5:54 pm
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Haha, great one.
Comment by Mimo — December 4, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
ta, mimo!
Comment by jonbirch — December 4, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
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