hey roland, i certainly would admit that. for me… this one’s about pinning god down. i’ve always found god to be more illusive and i don’t have nearly enough arms to point in all the directions god may be.
Hey guys! So I’m new to this site but have been getting caught up on the posts for the past week or 2. I REALLY appreciate the art and conversation that keeps giving my brain a daily workout.
I love this one because I feel the same way about God’s allusiveness lately. I feel like there’s always more and more that I don’t understand and will never get..
so yeah, thanks and I look forward to some good conversation. Hope I can join the party!
Comment by Brandon Day — February 11, 2008 @ 9:12 pm
We like to think we know where God is - but more and more I feel the closest we get is like the OT account of seeing where God has just been. Steeples pointing upwards and sermons pointing heavenwards when all the while stood next to us…!
Becky, I used to think that, and sometimes I still do…but I think of all the humble craftsmen who built these places, and the intentions of their hearts. All good intention is beautiful to God.
Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my bed in the depths, you are there. If I rise on the wings of the dawn, if I settle on the far side of the sea, even there your hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me fast.
Maybe there’s scope for a strip on taking Jesus with us. what I mean is we sometimes get caught up with thinking that as Christians we’re the only ones who know where he is and in order for other people to find Him we need to take Him with us. Kind of kills the omnipresent thing. (do you think Jesus likes hide and seek?)
Maybe I’m going off track but that’s how my head works. It’s like we’re the only one’s who think we know we he is, up in Heaven looking down on us, when actually that’s the most screwed up way of looking at it. We don’t own the presence of God either.
A case of ancient symbology not being relevant to a modern theology. I think we should have churches shaped like blowfish with spikes in every direction…
Porcupine Shaped Church: A Report on Spikey Ministry
There’s NOTHING wrong with erect penises. In fact, if we were to be more ok with it, we’d positively say, God bless our sexuality, it’s part of our offering to God.
In Fact, El Shaddai means “Mighty Breasted One” from the hebrew Shad meaning breast or mountain.
sometimes, jon, the cynicism in your cartoons annoy me. As your first commenter noted, at least we/they/people/believers are trying… not always very well… so, sometimes… but not this time…
Then you went and said this:
“for me… this one’s about pinning god down. i’ve always found god to be more illusive and i don’t have nearly enough arms to point in all the directions god may be.”
so maybe just maybe you have a heart of gold that just wants people to see and think differently, with just a touch of cynicism … or perhaps you are die-hard cynic (which are annoying) and have a touch of gold in the heart…
In either case, i’ll keep coming back.
p.s. - i don’t want to be abstinent in the emoticon orgy, so here -
hi jaybrams… i too agree with the first comment and i don’t really see myself as cynical. i just see things and say them as i see them. as to my heart, in my flawed way i love people and love god and am in awe of his handywork… if there were one overarching theme to my cartoons i suspect it would have alot to do with setting people free from the things which cloud our relationships with god. “so maybe just maybe you have a heart of gold that just wants people to see and think differently, with just a touch of cynicism”… i very much identify with this, although i wouldn’t say ‘cynicism’ and i would have preferred one less ‘maybe’.
it may seem odd but i do see asbo as me using my gifts for god. i started it not knowing what it would be. i never see my cartoons as the last word on a subject, rather as the starter for a conversation… a way in if you like. i have found that as the blog has grown, people have become more and more forthcoming about their own views and experiences. i learn a lot from this and feel tremendously priveleged that this happens on my blog.
thanks for joining in and thanks for coming back.
sometimes i am a bit cheeky and sometimes i want to turn over the tables, but mostly i’m trying to be honest and say it as i see it. cheers jaybrams.
hey sas… who said there was anything wrong with breasts and penises… the shapes were merely commented on. i find the image of a mother god who comforts in her breast very helpful as it happens.
‘churches shaped like blowfish’…
robb that is radical thinking… go on, build one!
It’s when one shapes dominates the discussion that we run into problems. I wish I knew how to use emoticons cause more often than not I’m being a bit of a smarty pants. As far as finding God, I tend find her more when I’m fishing, kayaking, and in nature - every so often I run into him at church but not too often these days.
the best place to find god throughout history and learn of his plans is the bible. the best place to find god now is in the wonder of his world and in the beauty of relationship. all else is just smoke and mirrors.
Jon 26 no one did I was starting a new tangent. What I’m trying to say is, be open about sexuality as a big part of life - so if spires are phallic, they can be phallic in a good way, not bad.
Same with breast-domes.
Becky if you want to be self-effacing use a semicolon then dash then bracket to create a winker.
Sas x
Jon - glad you feel that way about asbo, it’s very important to be here.
Jon, stay as cheeky as you are, that’s what we love about you. These cartoons have helped some of us to understand our own thoughts on many subjects. Just occasionally they have led to discussions which certainly caused me to modify my views on certain things. And as long as I am being challenged in my long held views, there is less danger of my falling into complacency. I suppose I understand that this approach is not for everyone, but for some of us it is one of the few places where we don’t have to fear expressing our views. To echo Sas, it is very important. Keep up the Asbo ministry!
like the cartoon, and also finding ps139 and breasts and penises discussed here.
also think buildings reflect something about the people who built them - for instance the massive shopping mall going up near me, seems to give the impressions about ………., sometimes I’ve found a church that feels people size and welcoming, have also visited churches where I’ve felt a darker spirituality
Hi su, can’t decide if it is instant messaging or hide and seek. Psalm 139 is my very favourite psalm of all time. Buildings can be very powerful. My fave cathedral so far is York Minster, but I have not visited that many. I know what you mean about that darker spirituality - I find that sometimes churches can be almost scary - especially around the Med. for some reason. Church spires can be very phallic, as can salt and pepper sellars, in my experience…I haven’t even started on hair styling accoutrements.
When I worked in the UK I was assigned to Coventry. When I’d tell folks that, they’d always say “oh, you’ve been sent to coventry ‘ave you?” and then laugh. Took me months to figure out why…
Steve - do you really think there’s a “best place” to find God? I think any where one happens to find God or He happens to find you, is the “best place”. That’s not always in a book, at least in my experience.
Thanks, Jon. Very interesting, eh? Isn’t it wonderful how language can encapsulate a whole history and culture of a nation?
I was having a grumpy old git moment the other day, bemoaning the lack of general knowledge re our history and culture. When I thought about it a bit, I realised that I didn’t learn that much about our heritage at school. I learned about the likes of Lady Godiva, King Canute, Nell Gwynne, Robin Hood and all of those legendary figures from sketches on the Dave Allen show, the Two Ronnies, Morecambe and Wise and other comedy shows of that ilk from the 60s and 70s. I rather suspect a lot of today’s teenagers will know more of their history from Blackadder than from lessons. I can vouch for the fact that the Blackadder DVD collection is an essential resource in most secondary school history departments! Funny innit?
One of my concerns about some Emerging Church stuff is the use of phrases like “Holy Space”, as though God is only there and nowhere else.
Hope we don;t make the same mistakes again. :o)
I’m still in Coventry. I’m at the University across the street from the Cathedral so I pass it every day when I’m there. I’m on placement at the moment at Walsgrave Psychiatric Hospital which is 10 minutes from my house.
hey carole… whenever i think of anthony and cleopatra i always picture sid james in ‘carry on cleo’!
sas, i watch a lot of documentaries. it’s better for me than reading because it’s like someone’s already gone through the book with a hilighter pen and found the salient stuff which they’ve then added helpful pictures to.
Jon, you are so right about TV documentaries. I grew up on a steady diet of Attenborough documentaries and still love them. At the moment we are dipping into the DVDs of the Coast series. In a couple of weeks, Phil is going to pick up little VW van. We have a yearning to travel around the coastline of this country - we just don’t know it well enough. We’ve recently discovered Northumbria thanks to our eldest being at Newcastle Uni. But, sshh, don’t tell anyone - it’s Britain’s best kept secret!
“Infamy, infamy, they’ve all got it in for me!” What was the film?
carole… that’d be carry on cleo i think… along with… ‘friends, romans…’ then someone interjects with ‘countrymen’… and kenneth williams says ‘i knoooow!’ with a camp disgruntlement.
my favourite lines are from ‘carry on up the khyber’ though… ’sir, the peasants are revolting!’ and ‘may his love light up your way’, ‘and also up yours!’
hilarious!
ps. i love coast. time team. antiques roadshow. bbc historical dramas (cranford etc.). the sky at night. attenborough. stuff on egypt. the war. history. etc. etc… with the odd bit of investigative journalism thrown in. telly can be a wonderful thing.
Hey it’s cool everyone talking about my home city
How cool to come back and find this, all the best All@Sea, also your studies and placement sound amazing
Thanks
My placement is downright scary. Been punched, kicked and spat at - and that’s just the nurses (only joking). I actually do fear for my physical safety a lot of the time!
Only three weeks to go. Only three weeks to go. Only three weeks to go.
Got 2 out of 3 of last terms essays back yesterday. Passed both. Yay
Never been to greenbelt. Had a chat with my housemate about it. One of these days, we might get the caravan out and give it a go….
get yerselves along allatsea… we can have an asbo get together for all those there… you know you want to!
if you don’t like it, carole will refund you.
You got to admit. At least they’re trying. Now if they could quit pointing and DO something. Well something might actually get accomplished.
Comment by Roland — February 11, 2008 @ 5:22 pm
hey roland, i certainly would admit that. for me… this one’s about pinning god down. i’ve always found god to be more illusive and i don’t have nearly enough arms to point in all the directions god may be.
Comment by jonbirch — February 11, 2008 @ 7:00 pm
oooh thats exactly what i was thikin this afternoon when looking at the edinburgh skyline!
Comment by Mel — February 11, 2008 @ 7:46 pm
Hey guys! So I’m new to this site but have been getting caught up on the posts for the past week or 2. I REALLY appreciate the art and conversation that keeps giving my brain a daily workout.
I love this one because I feel the same way about God’s allusiveness lately. I feel like there’s always more and more that I don’t understand and will never get..
so yeah, thanks and I look forward to some good conversation. Hope I can join the party!
Comment by Brandon Day — February 11, 2008 @ 9:12 pm
definitely true.
Comment by bascht — February 11, 2008 @ 10:13 pm
Is “here” near the nuclear plant???
Comment by Laura — February 11, 2008 @ 10:34 pm
This seems to tap into what NT Wright says about people’s mis-understanding about heaven
which can be found here - http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1710844,00.html
We like to think we know where God is - but more and more I feel the closest we get is like the OT account of seeing where God has just been. Steeples pointing upwards and sermons pointing heavenwards when all the while stood next to us…!
Comment by marcus — February 11, 2008 @ 10:37 pm
Nah Laura, he’s just had his Readybrek, that’s all.
Comment by Carole — February 11, 2008 @ 10:37 pm
I thought he only ate pancakes.
Comment by Laura — February 11, 2008 @ 10:48 pm
As much as I love the grandeur of the Great cathedrals, am I the only one who thinks a bunch of spires looks just a tad phallic?
Comment by becky — February 11, 2008 @ 10:52 pm
Must just be you, Becky
Comment by Carole — February 11, 2008 @ 11:17 pm
We-hey!!! I’ve done my first emoticon!
Comment by Carole — February 11, 2008 @ 11:17 pm
God lives *on earth*, with his people.
And in the desert.
And in the amoebas.
And in the nebula.
Brandon, Welcome!
Becky, I used to think that, and sometimes I still do…but I think of all the humble craftsmen who built these places, and the intentions of their hearts. All good intention is beautiful to God.
Sas x
Comment by sarah — February 11, 2008 @ 11:20 pm
carole has lost her emoticon virginity! cause for much celebration!!!
and no becky, it’s not just you! protestant church design is phallic.
Comment by jonbirch — February 11, 2008 @ 11:26 pm
hey sas… nothing wrong with breast like domes either.
Comment by jonbirch — February 11, 2008 @ 11:27 pm
’so yeah, thanks and I look forward to some good conversation. Hope I can join the party!’…
hey brandon… welcome! come on in!
Comment by jonbirch — February 11, 2008 @ 11:36 pm
Jon - as are their Catholic cathedral counterparts.
Sarah - I don’t dwell on this but when I see a bunch of spires together the thought does come to mind at times.
Comment by becky — February 12, 2008 @ 2:32 am
This would be more appropriate…
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/83/The_B_of_the_Bang,_Manchester.jpg/521px-The_B_of_the_Bang,_Manchester.jpg
Comment by Caz — February 12, 2008 @ 9:39 am
Psalm 139:7-10
Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my bed in the depths, you are there. If I rise on the wings of the dawn, if I settle on the far side of the sea, even there your hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me fast.
Comment by Steve — February 12, 2008 @ 11:46 am
my favourite psalm steve.
Comment by jonbirch — February 12, 2008 @ 11:47 am
Maybe there’s scope for a strip on taking Jesus with us. what I mean is we sometimes get caught up with thinking that as Christians we’re the only ones who know where he is and in order for other people to find Him we need to take Him with us. Kind of kills the omnipresent thing. (do you think Jesus likes hide and seek?)
Maybe I’m going off track but that’s how my head works. It’s like we’re the only one’s who think we know we he is, up in Heaven looking down on us, when actually that’s the most screwed up way of looking at it. We don’t own the presence of God either.
randon, sorry
Comment by andrew — February 12, 2008 @ 12:32 pm
A case of ancient symbology not being relevant to a modern theology. I think we should have churches shaped like blowfish with spikes in every direction…
Porcupine Shaped Church: A Report on Spikey Ministry
Comment by Robb — February 12, 2008 @ 12:42 pm
Becks, JOn,
There’s NOTHING wrong with erect penises. In fact, if we were to be more ok with it, we’d positively say, God bless our sexuality, it’s part of our offering to God.
In Fact, El Shaddai means “Mighty Breasted One” from the hebrew Shad meaning breast or mountain.
Get with it
Congrats Carole on the emoticonning!
Cheers All
Sas x
Comment by sarah — February 12, 2008 @ 1:21 pm
sometimes, jon, the cynicism in your cartoons annoy me. As your first commenter noted, at least we/they/people/believers are trying… not always very well… so, sometimes… but not this time…
Then you went and said this:
“for me… this one’s about pinning god down. i’ve always found god to be more illusive and i don’t have nearly enough arms to point in all the directions god may be.”
so maybe just maybe you have a heart of gold that just wants people to see and think differently, with just a touch of cynicism … or perhaps you are die-hard cynic (which are annoying) and have a touch of gold in the heart…
In either case, i’ll keep coming back.
p.s. - i don’t want to be abstinent in the emoticon orgy, so here -
Comment by Jaybrams — February 12, 2008 @ 1:56 pm
hi jaybrams… i too agree with the first comment and i don’t really see myself as cynical. i just see things and say them as i see them. as to my heart, in my flawed way i love people and love god and am in awe of his handywork… if there were one overarching theme to my cartoons i suspect it would have alot to do with setting people free from the things which cloud our relationships with god. “so maybe just maybe you have a heart of gold that just wants people to see and think differently, with just a touch of cynicism”… i very much identify with this, although i wouldn’t say ‘cynicism’ and i would have preferred one less ‘maybe’.
it may seem odd but i do see asbo as me using my gifts for god. i started it not knowing what it would be. i never see my cartoons as the last word on a subject, rather as the starter for a conversation… a way in if you like. i have found that as the blog has grown, people have become more and more forthcoming about their own views and experiences. i learn a lot from this and feel tremendously priveleged that this happens on my blog.
thanks for joining in and thanks for coming back.
sometimes i am a bit cheeky and sometimes i want to turn over the tables, but mostly i’m trying to be honest and say it as i see it. cheers jaybrams.
Comment by jonbirch — February 12, 2008 @ 2:49 pm
hey sas… who said there was anything wrong with breasts and penises… the shapes were merely commented on.
i find the image of a mother god who comforts in her breast very helpful as it happens.
‘churches shaped like blowfish’…
robb that is radical thinking… go on, build one!
Comment by jonbirch — February 12, 2008 @ 2:54 pm
It’s when one shapes dominates the discussion that we run into problems. I wish I knew how to use emoticons cause more often than not I’m being a bit of a smarty pants. As far as finding God, I tend find her more when I’m fishing, kayaking, and in nature - every so often I run into him at church but not too often these days.
Comment by becky — February 12, 2008 @ 3:20 pm
The absolute best place to find God is in the Bible. Everything else is smoke and mirrors.
Comment by Steve — February 12, 2008 @ 6:44 pm
Anyone heard the song by Steven Curtis Chapman about seeing the Face of Jesus in people:
http://www.actionext.com/names_s/steven_curtis_chapman_lyrics/what_now.html
Comment by DrNick — February 12, 2008 @ 7:48 pm
the best place to find god throughout history and learn of his plans is the bible. the best place to find god now is in the wonder of his world and in the beauty of relationship. all else is just smoke and mirrors.
Comment by jonbirch — February 12, 2008 @ 8:18 pm
Yes God is a she thank you very much.
Jon 26 no one did I was starting a new tangent. What I’m trying to say is, be open about sexuality as a big part of life - so if spires are phallic, they can be phallic in a good way, not bad.
Same with breast-domes.
Becky if you want to be self-effacing use a semicolon then dash then bracket to create a winker.
Sas x
Jon - glad you feel that way about asbo, it’s very important to be here.
Sas x
Comment by sarah — February 12, 2008 @ 10:06 pm
Jon, stay as cheeky as you are, that’s what we love about you. These cartoons have helped some of us to understand our own thoughts on many subjects. Just occasionally they have led to discussions which certainly caused me to modify my views on certain things. And as long as I am being challenged in my long held views, there is less danger of my falling into complacency. I suppose I understand that this approach is not for everyone, but for some of us it is one of the few places where we don’t have to fear expressing our views. To echo Sas, it is very important. Keep up the Asbo ministry!
We do have some larfs, too…
Comment by Carole — February 12, 2008 @ 10:38 pm
like the cartoon, and also finding ps139 and breasts and penises discussed here.
also think buildings reflect something about the people who built them - for instance the massive shopping mall going up near me, seems to give the impressions about ………., sometimes I’ve found a church that feels people size and welcoming, have also visited churches where I’ve felt a darker spirituality
Comment by su — February 12, 2008 @ 10:39 pm
hi Carol, how cool, typing away at the same time!
Comment by su — February 12, 2008 @ 10:42 pm
Hi su, can’t decide if it is instant messaging or hide and seek. Psalm 139 is my very favourite psalm of all time. Buildings can be very powerful. My fave cathedral so far is York Minster, but I have not visited that many. I know what you mean about that darker spirituality - I find that sometimes churches can be almost scary - especially around the Med. for some reason. Church spires can be very phallic, as can salt and pepper sellars, in my experience…I haven’t even started on hair styling accoutrements.
Comment by Carole — February 12, 2008 @ 11:05 pm
i wonder how many of us would site 139 as our favourite psalm? many i reckon. but i’ll bet we’re not so sure about the end bit with all the smiting!
Comment by jonbirch — February 12, 2008 @ 11:55 pm
yes, York Min is stunning, I like Coventry as can relate to the sense of human struggle and those stone tablets.
Comment by subo — February 13, 2008 @ 8:12 am
Hey Subo I was born and bred in Coventry
Spent many a long day in the cathedral playing truant from my nearby school
LOL
Comment by allatseawithabucketandspade — February 13, 2008 @ 10:40 pm
i’ve been ’sent to coventry’ a few times!
so where are you now allatsea? i assumed you were in the states… i don’t know why i assumed that.
Comment by jonbirch — February 13, 2008 @ 11:21 pm
When I worked in the UK I was assigned to Coventry. When I’d tell folks that, they’d always say “oh, you’ve been sent to coventry ‘ave you?” and then laugh. Took me months to figure out why…
Steve - do you really think there’s a “best place” to find God? I think any where one happens to find God or He happens to find you, is the “best place”. That’s not always in a book, at least in my experience.
Comment by Laura — February 14, 2008 @ 12:29 am
Anyone enlighten me as to the origin of the expression ’sent to Coventry’?
Comment by Carole — February 14, 2008 @ 10:45 am
hi carole… i found this… http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/sent-to-coventry.html
also it links to a page on peeping tom, who also comes from coventry. i never knew that.
Comment by jonbirch — February 14, 2008 @ 2:13 pm
Thanks, Jon. Very interesting, eh? Isn’t it wonderful how language can encapsulate a whole history and culture of a nation?
I was having a grumpy old git moment the other day, bemoaning the lack of general knowledge re our history and culture. When I thought about it a bit, I realised that I didn’t learn that much about our heritage at school. I learned about the likes of Lady Godiva, King Canute, Nell Gwynne, Robin Hood and all of those legendary figures from sketches on the Dave Allen show, the Two Ronnies, Morecambe and Wise and other comedy shows of that ilk from the 60s and 70s. I rather suspect a lot of today’s teenagers will know more of their history from Blackadder than from lessons. I can vouch for the fact that the Blackadder DVD collection is an essential resource in most secondary school history departments! Funny innit?
Comment by Carole — February 14, 2008 @ 2:39 pm
Another good post…
One of my concerns about some Emerging Church stuff is the use of phrases like “Holy Space”, as though God is only there and nowhere else.
Hope we don;t make the same mistakes again. :o)
Comment by Derek — February 14, 2008 @ 8:35 pm
Carole -TV’s the modern campfire, so we are going to learn stuff from it. It’s healthy.
Sas x
Comment by sarah — February 14, 2008 @ 9:50 pm
Hey it’s cool everyone talking about my home city
Yep this side of the pond John!
I’m still in Coventry. I’m at the University across the street from the Cathedral so I pass it every day when I’m there. I’m on placement at the moment at Walsgrave Psychiatric Hospital which is 10 minutes from my house.
Comment by allatseawithabucketandspade — February 14, 2008 @ 10:01 pm
are you gonna come to greenbelt allatsea?
hey carole… whenever i think of anthony and cleopatra i always picture sid james in ‘carry on cleo’!
sas, i watch a lot of documentaries. it’s better for me than reading because it’s like someone’s already gone through the book with a hilighter pen and found the salient stuff which they’ve then added helpful pictures to.
Comment by jonbirch — February 15, 2008 @ 12:22 am
Jon, you are so right about TV documentaries. I grew up on a steady diet of Attenborough documentaries and still love them. At the moment we are dipping into the DVDs of the Coast series. In a couple of weeks, Phil is going to pick up little VW van. We have a yearning to travel around the coastline of this country - we just don’t know it well enough. We’ve recently discovered Northumbria thanks to our eldest being at Newcastle Uni. But, sshh, don’t tell anyone - it’s Britain’s best kept secret!
“Infamy, infamy, they’ve all got it in for me!” What was the film?
Comment by Carole — February 15, 2008 @ 10:44 am
carole… that’d be carry on cleo i think… along with… ‘friends, romans…’ then someone interjects with ‘countrymen’… and kenneth williams says ‘i knoooow!’ with a camp disgruntlement.
my favourite lines are from ‘carry on up the khyber’ though… ’sir, the peasants are revolting!’ and ‘may his love light up your way’, ‘and also up yours!’
hilarious!
ps. i love coast. time team. antiques roadshow. bbc historical dramas (cranford etc.). the sky at night. attenborough. stuff on egypt. the war. history. etc. etc… with the odd bit of investigative journalism thrown in. telly can be a wonderful thing.
Comment by jonbirch — February 15, 2008 @ 11:13 am
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Hey it’s cool everyone talking about my home city
How cool to come back and find this, all the best All@Sea, also your studies and placement sound amazing
Comment by subo — February 16, 2008 @ 12:43 pm
yep… allthebestallatsea!
Comment by jonbirch — February 16, 2008 @ 1:03 pm
Thanks
My placement is downright scary. Been punched, kicked and spat at - and that’s just the nurses (only joking). I actually do fear for my physical safety a lot of the time!
Only three weeks to go. Only three weeks to go. Only three weeks to go.
Got 2 out of 3 of last terms essays back yesterday. Passed both. Yay
Never been to greenbelt. Had a chat with my housemate about it. One of these days, we might get the caravan out and give it a go….
Comment by allatseawithabucketandspade — February 16, 2008 @ 6:56 pm
You’ll luv it allatsea+b&s! That’s a guarantee. If you don’t, Jon will refund you.
Comment by Carole — February 16, 2008 @ 6:59 pm
get yerselves along allatsea… we can have an asbo get together for all those there… you know you want to!
if you don’t like it, carole will refund you.
Comment by jonbirch — February 17, 2008 @ 1:58 pm
Ha! ha! ha! Touché Jon!
Comment by Carole — February 17, 2008 @ 2:59 pm
congrats on the essay Passess allatsea, and all the best for the next 3 weeks
Comment by subo — February 18, 2008 @ 12:45 pm
Yeah from me too aas xxx
Sas x
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