this subject requested by catherine. :-)


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animator, illustrator, character designer, graphic designer. music producer/recording musician. co-owner of PROOST. proost.co.uk
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  1. Catherine says:

    Oh, you are AWESOME! Thankyou so much. Pretty sure this topic will resonate with more people than me.

  2. Amy Watson says:

    “Great people talk about ideas.
    Average people talk about things.
    Small people talk about other people.”

    no idea who said that…. must be that bloke A. Nonymous.

  3. beatthedrum says:

    I hate the church ‘grape vine’. But sometimes if the church were more open and the people there in the grapevine would wither and die!

  4. Have I mentioned the church’s dating goldfish bowl?

  5. Well the word has its origins in the church ‘god+sibb’ for God-parent, so you could say the church invented it. It’s much more negative gender connotation and latter professionalisation in the press have given a very negative feel to the term. This I think has also arisen from the increasingly private and less communal nature of our lives. In much smaller communities, centered around a parish church, what is now called gossip, would actually be a more constructive force effecting how the community and the church cared for its parishioners.
    It also remains as an invaluable, but oft ignored, communication tool when working in smaller communities. The crowds at the sermon on the mount or at the feeding of the 5,000 were not there due to Twitter messages.

  6. miriworm says:

    Oh you are a lot of gossips! :-D

  7. Caroline Too says:

    Can these surgeons operate on any other of the ‘church’s’ maladies?

  8. becky says:

    As it just so happens, I am talking with someone re: a malicious gossip campaign that happened against me. Yep that looks like what it feels like – and in the end, it’s the church that suffers.

  9. Lee says:

    this is perilously close to gossiping about the church….

    i sometimes find that what people don’t like about the church is a projection of themselves

  10. jonbirch says:

    not sure i know what you’re driving at, lee.

  11. bubbybird says:

    Sometimes it is actually the so called leader….pastor or minister of the church who is the most guilty. Our last one kept sending me messages thru one of the members here that if I ever needed him he was here!! He was the one who was the guilty party in the first place to cause us to not want to go back!!

  12. Tiggy Sagar says:

    “Great people talk about ideas.
    Average people talk about things.
    Small people talk about other people.”

    That’s rubbish. I talk about ideas and things and people and so do most people I know.

    ‘The only thing worse than being talked about, is NOT being talked about.’ (Mr. Oscar Wilde)

    I’d like to feel I was important enough to be gossiped about!

  13. Tiggy Sagar says:

    I’ve not come across any gossiping at any of the churches I’ve been to. People at both my churches would very quickly react negatively to malicious gossip. Though the are at very different ends of the theological spectrum, they both try hard not to be judgemental.

  14. Forrest says:

    That’s a really great benefit about having Asperger’s Syndrome and simply not being able to do much of the ‘small talk’ socializing – you don’t get really close to people so therefore nobody tells you gossipy stuff.

  15. Tiggy Sagar says:

    Forrest, did you see the post from the German Kite Flying guy?

  16. brambonius says:

    are you gossiping about the church??

  17. janetp says:

    Lovely cartoon, Jon. Looking forward to seeing you and Clare at GB. :)

  18. jonbirch says:

    brambonius… no.

    me too, janetp. :-)

  19. becky says:

    The problem is how much do you cut away before it bleeds to death?

  20. Guilty as charged.

    It’s so difficult to work out where the line is tho…..

  21. Tiggy Sagar says:

    I would have thought you could only excise yourself.

  22. subo says:

    I’ve a feeling people show their faith in how they talk about people

    If you believe God is involved in situations, and wants to bring peace, hope, reconciliation, joy and creativity, then you say something about this in your praying.

    If you believe in your own ability to analyse situations, and arrive at the correct interpretation, others might begin to feel a little judged and talked about

  23. jonbirch says:

    catherine… i notice i did another cartoon on this subject way back here… http://asbojesus.wordpress.com/2009/01/09/623/#comments
    using the very line i think you suggested. :-)

  24. Catherine says:

    Thanks Jon. Your work is amazing and thanks for the prompt.

  25. Catherine says:

    Interesting to read all the comments. Clearly many affected by “loose lips”.

  26. zipping the lip (well nearly anyway)…”its alright, its not gossip…its pastoral care” – said to me more than once

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