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Dang this rocks – dealing with some BS with certain “liberal” “progressive” type Christian author/speakers who prove when push comes to shove, it’s all about the cha-ching.
Saw this and a few cans opened up inside…
There was the thought that “everyone looks the same.” Recessed hairlines for all, same complexion, and dress. Sure, Jesus doesn’t fit, neither does his bride.
There was the thought of history. One could argue that ever since the “church” went “national,” (re: Constantine), that there was a signifiant corporate/business element to the functioning and posturing of the (c)hurch as something that needs an image to be received in the “right way.” Some have even argued as much ot say that “Constantine’s Jesus” wasn’t the Jesus of the apostles, and put the (c)hurch towards this path where am image of Jesus holds more validity than the life He lives (John 17 comes to mind).
Lastly, Revelation of John. There was a church that did all the right things, said all the right stuff, but their eyes were lost from Jesus Himself. Which is almost like the worst kind of shame – claiming an identiy about someone whom you won’t even acknowledge in a synchronous relationship. Indifference is the opposite of love…
This is the kind of old school ASBO that got me hooked. Love it.
that’s the thing, we were hoping for a filmic pagan, only to meet someone so ordinary
“There was nothing attractive about him, nothing to cause us to take a second look. Isaiah 53:2
They can f++k off can’t they. Who cares about these people. All we want is Jesus and his love thank you very much.
The Suits took over.
This cartoon sums up part of the reason why I became an atheist. I love your insight Jon.
If Jesus can overthrow the curse of eternal death; I’m sure his people can overthrow a few measly suits.
ah forrest, the suit is just indicative of the lifestyle choice.
ooh… and the suits aren’t measly, they’re very expensive. 
Granted, there are expensive suits. Now, as to what the contents of any given suit is worth . . . well . . .
{well, honestly, the contents of the suits are worth enough for Jesus to have done the deal on the cross; in the grave; and, out of the grave for. Now, if we can just lead the suits to see that …}
people will do this everywhere, in every church, workplace, social organisation, educational establishment, political group – sometimes there’s the odd thoughtful person who’ll say ‘hang on’, and the whole puffed up plan falls down like a pack of cards
at times the church has felt a call to help people develop this enquiring mind, to tune into the spirit of God (as happens on ASBO), and speak bluntly, out of turn, but from a heart felt longing to protect the good
i think it hurts more though, when power struggles take control in churches, because it’s our home and a place of sanctuary for all humanity
sadly, subo, as youthworkerpete’s story from a few cartoons ago testifies, too often (in any organisation), the odd thoughtful person who says ‘hang on’ is as likely as not to be ‘strung up’.
yep – vr often. & for just trying to do your part well + not joining in the bad stuff can get you strung up
sometimes though, a few comments can start change – it does happen, i’ve seen it. and a group who are able to talk about everything, where there’s fewer no go areas, may feel more vibrant and have a longer shelf life
Full circle – I think we called them ‘Designer Christians’ in the last iteration!
seems that being willing to be strung up is part of the deal. but as another pete said ” where else can we go?”
What we usually get is the people in suits dressing Jesus up in a suit, and claiming he is just like them. So I wonder if all is lost in the hypothetical church, because at least they recognise Jesus for who he really is.
Aren’t they called Mormons?
maybe we should be looking for Jesus in the brothels and drinking places where he hangs out?
- earlier i was reading about the all consuming fire of Jesus’ love for us, and yet at times we live as though we are running away from the jaws of hell, unaware of the pavement of heaven beneath us, yep – this speaks to me!, as does an increasing awareness of how i let the hurts of life colour my spec’s, to the point where i saw hurting where there was celebration, & pain where their was love
Too right Su. Life’s too short innit.
I’m thinking Jesus probably doesn’t project enough of an image of success to satisfy their niche market.