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About jonbirch

animator, illustrator, character designer, graphic designer. music producer/recording musician. co-owner of PROOST. proost.co.uk
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11 Responses to 980

  1. laura says:

    Unfortunately true.

  2. Botticelliwoman says:

    ever was and ever shall be, more’s the pity

  3. Changingworship says:

    But here in the UK two of the three main parties are led by professed atheists. And I don’t think we can say that Baroness Warsi joined the church to further her career in politics.

  4. Ha ha ha .. absolutely brilliant. lies lies and more lies.

  5. roy says:

    Don’t believe a word of it!! – it’s not in the Daily Mail, unless of course you have been intercepting telephone messages again, tut tut

  6. subo says:

    maybe God’s speaking to you

  7. jonbirch says:

    changing worship… when i did this cartoon i was only thinking of one thing, which is, that the church is riddled with hard to negotiate politics… from the issue of women priests to exchanging pews for chairs, or dealing with difficult people and situations. what you’ve commented on hadn’t occurred to me i must admit. using your interpretation, which i get, i entirely agree with you. it’s always interesting when someone sees a completely different meaning in a cartoon to the one i intended. i wish i’d been clever enough to deliberately come up with a double meaning… :-)

    roy… i can’t even be bothered to answer my own telephone half the time! :-)

  8. Forrest says:

    Anywhere you have more than one person, you will have politics.

  9. AnneDroid says:

    I’m interested Jon to hear your original purpose, and to read the other comments. Funnily enough I read it as neither of those! I saw it as a discussion starter about whether we in the church could make a political difference – prophetically perhaps, or by other means.

    I like your description of what you were getting at – you are so right about the politics in church. What a lot of nonsense so much of it is, and yet some of the motivation is honourable, to do with a desire to do the right thing and avoid sinfulness etc…

    I also like what the other interpreters thought of. Perhaps it’s more of a feature of Englandshire than up here in Scotland. The CofE is more establishment than the CofS.

  10. jonbirch says:

    forrest… too right… and politics should be and can be a good thing.

    annedroid… fascinating. i like your interpretation… it’s certainly a more positive message than mine.

  11. paulo says:

    I just ran across this site and I thought this particular entry and the comments are rather interesting. The common perspective is that the church should stay away from politics since politics has a negative connotation. I tend to agree in the general sense of it. However, I’m reading this book Politics of Jesus by John Howard Yoder… and it is just an eye-opener and argues that the church is actually a political institution itself.

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