THE GREED CREED (revisited)

This is The Greed Creed as it appears in the book (Did I mention the book?.. Sorry). :-)  Thank you Caroline Too for pointing out the relevance of this cartoon from when the banks first collapsed.

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animator, illustrator, character designer, graphic designer. music producer/recording musician. co-owner of PROOST.
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19 Responses to THE GREED CREED (revisited)

  1. Carolne Too says:

    thank you, Jon… sadly it isn’t just bankers who believe in thes creed… as we watch looters strip shops bare in London and as the ‘squeezed middle’ grumble about benefit losses and taxes. Just at the moment, becoming poorer looks mighty frightening in England.

  2. jonbirch says:

    cameron might as well have stayed on holiday if all he can say when he gets back is, ‘mindless violence… petty thuggery… wanton criminality’ and nonsense like that. how ignorant a response! i’ll tell you what, mr cameron … why not come back from holiday and dish out stupid soundbites? because that will really help. i look forward to a time of thoughtful responses and willingness to face the real issues. a man can dream, can’t he?

  3. JF says:

    I don’t really know what you mean, Jon? What else would Cameron have said? The terms “mindless violence”, “petty thuggery” and “wanton criminality” are quite well-chosen, I would think. He came back to chair a Cobra meeting, which he did… and the next night, on the strength of decisions made at that meeting (extra police, plastic bullets available, water cannon etc.) there was markedly less violence… What am I missing?

  4. jonbirch says:

    it’s inflammatory and macho. it’s soundbite central. it will help not a jot. it’s like the man who shouts ‘charge!’ whilst standing at the back. racial tensions and police stop and search have been sadly very unhelpful. also, ‘experts’ are still working out why these riots have happened in the way they have and are not sure, because it’s different to last time… so it’s not great for cameron to trot out the words the middle classes and well-to-do always do in these situations. i think it shows he isn’t wise. but hey-ho, wisdom and politics often aren’t synonymous.
    yes there was less trouble last night and civil order is clearly the first step. but what about the underlying causes? until things are properly sorted in a long term way these things will just cycle it seems. seems that since the 80’s tory gov’t = violence on the streets. as well as being frightening it all feels very sad to me. civilisation is fragile, isn’t it. :-(
    will young is making some good points on the one show re. his work with catch 22. young people are great and most are good. breakdown of family and no sense of belonging or responsibility lead to these horrors. in a world where teachers cannot comfort a child (even if that child is missing parents), what kind of country are we setting up for ourselves? these things need sorting.
    that all said… what these people are doing is awful… please don’t get me wrong.

  5. soniamain says:

    the asbo book has just arrived- brilliance- thank you for your creativity

  6. jonbirch says:

    you’re welcome, sonia. :-)

    jf… btw, the met apparently were not happy about the use of water cannons and rubber bullets and took issue with cameron for saying it, according to newsnight… seems it’s a mess. :-(

  7. JF says:

    Yep, it sure is a mess. I find myself without any political loyalties these days and try to look at everything at face value. But whichever way you look at it, those kids out there rioting are surely a product of the last government’s education and social policies?
    BTW I watched ITN news the other night, almost by accident, and I thought the journalism was miles better than the BBC.

  8. Carolne Too says:

    As I understand it there are no water cannons on the mainland anyway… so Cameron’s decisions were pure verbal posing! Three things happene to reduce the violence (1) more police – a police decision not political, (2) the rioters had run out of shops to trash – sadly the safest place to be during the riots was a bookshop! says everything really! :roll: (3) it rained heavily.

    absolutely nothing to to do with the Bullingdon bully, JF, absolutely nothing.

    And it simply is NO GOOD rounding on behaviour that you don’t like and labelling it as mindless, destructive… when only recently your own behaviour (and that of people you approve of) was mindfully corrupt (relations with NewsCorp), utterly ineffective (policing of NewsCorp) and theft by another name (MPs expenses – remember how many of those rich people had to give money back?). So that’s why I’m disgusted with our toryboy pm…. Our society IS sick, I agree with him on that, but the poison resides first amongst the powerful who write the laws to make their greed legal, whilst berating the trivial greed of the poor, ill-educated and powerless.

    I don’t suppose you’ll agree, JF, but can you now see what ASBO Jesus might mean?

  9. Ros says:

    I’m distressed by the knee jerk reaction of EVERYONE over the riots. The best response is not to jump to conclusions about “what’s the matter with Britain today”, but to step back, understand the background and think up the wise solution.

    I guess that’s too much to ask after Cameron’s speech today.

  10. Joe Turner says:

    What makes me really sad and angry is the way that extreme views suddenly become common currency in the aftermath of a crisis. Looting is bad. Rioting is bad.

    But locking up a kid in prison for stealing bottles of water is not justice. And talking about taking away benefits and housing from people who are already mad enough to go on the rampage is not sane talk.

  11. JF says:

    Caroline Too: Yes, I can see it, but I still think that “mindless violence”, “petty thuggery” and “wanton criminality” are a pretty good summation of what I saw on my TV screen. This wasn’t a protest march, it was largely rioting for kicks and looting through opportunism. I understand people’s grievances against the police and government, but trashing / setting light to ordinary citizens’ businesses and killing people in the process isn’t a valid protest against everyday policing tactics nor against government cuts, not that those going through the courts seem to be those on the sharp end of the cutbacks in any case.
    I am not a Tory supporter – in fact I think our whole political system is a sham – but I also think a lot of the reaction to the Tories is due to an ingrained anti-Thatcherism that a lot of us picked up in the 1980s, or a grudge against anyone who we feel was born with a silver spoon in their mouth. It seems to colour some people’s ability to judge the ‘now’ in the context of now. So much of what Labour did was counter-productive and profligate, and sought to put structures in place whereby people were absolved of their responsibilities to themselves and to society (strange, given the party’s background). The current mob aren’t getting it 100% right, but they seem keen to put measures in place which clarify the ‘contract’ between citizens and the state. I agree with that.
    As for the NOTW & expenses issues, these are being dealt with by parliamentary and judicial inquiry, as well as criminal proceedings. Wrongdoing is being prosecuted on an individual basis and it isn’t just ‘toryboys’ who have gone to prison over their expenses. It’s faintly ridiculous to suggest that the government should refrain from making any pronouncements on law & order until these processes are complete!?
    What wound me up more was hearing Archbish of Cant on R4 yesterday. Now there is someone I would ban from speaking on social issues!

  12. jonbirch says:

    i didn’t hear the archbishop of canterbury. i did see the archbishop of york, john sentamu… to my ear he was the voice of wisdom on bbc question time… i think he’s an amazing man and i like him a lot. i’d be happier if he were in charge of things.

  13. soniamain says:

    for me the voice that has stood out in the conversations re the riots is Camila Batmanghelidjh, she is the woman who set up kids company. if you want to get a glimmer of understanding into some of the lives of the YP who have been involved in these riots look at . This doesn’t justify it, it doesn’t say it’s ok but it gives you a glimpse into the desperate lives some of the children and YP have in this country. Particularly look at their recent newsletter- inspirational.

  14. jonbirch says:

    i agree. plus, i love the fact that she has ‘batman’ in her name. :-)

  15. subo says:

    it shocked me how violent the riots were, burning houses with people in them, mowing down men, trashing small businesses. in any context people who behave like this are understood to be serious offenders

    I’ve no time for wooly talk that shuffles the naming of this behaviour as anything other than thuggery, people who throw rocks at others, including attempting to harm police officers, are thugs

    I do at times feel we have a separate social order of criminals, who see profiting from drugs as a way of life.

    I also think we have a criminal mentality among the rich, who feel ok about paying investors to organise tax avoidance plans for them, and hedge fund investors who think nothing of exploiting companies and labour for their own private gain. the destruction to our communities from this, and other self seeking behaviour, from those with money, is massive

    lets dare the government to call all these criminal behaviours into account

  16. Laura says:

    I need a new cartoon!

  17. Bhikehike says:

    Nice thoughts and good work.

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